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Building new PC for Acqua - LGA 1151 or LGA 2011 v3?

Postby dagovitsj » Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:15 pm

Hi!
I've read some of the threads here about building a new PC lately, but haven't recognized a thorough analysis regarding whether it's wise to go for a motherboard with the LGA 1151 or LGA 2011 standard?

As you can see from my signature, I have a PC from the stone age, 2010 i5 760!

Use of PC:
- I'm going to use it for music production, Reaper with lots of Nebula/Acquas and a lot of sample libs.
- Mixing projects with: max 50-60 tracks, I reckon. I have purchased SAND (Green 3, Pearl etc) and want to use it/have it available on many tracks.

(I reckon the main difference between LGA 1151 and LGA 2011 regarding RAM is that LGA supports up to 64 GB, while LGA 2011 supports 128 GB, if I remember it correctly?)

- I'm also going to use the PC for some video editing (Premiere Pro)

Conclusion:
I need a rather fast CPU and lots of RAM and I want to be able to purchase a faster CPU in some years without changing my motherboard, if that's possible?

I have some questions:
1) If I purchase a motherboard with LGA 1151, will it be possible to upgrade a CPU (6. gen. ) to a CPU (7. gen.) later?

2) For the same amount of money, will the LGA 1151 give me more 'bang for the buck' compared to the LGA 2011?

3) Is it better to have more cores than being able to overclock the CPU regarding number of Acqua plugins?

For SAND, Sys. requirements it says: "Intel Xeon v3 or Intel i7 generation 4 or 6 or newer is recommended." But what is the real difference between Xeon and i7 CPU - what advantages will I have going for Xeon? What do I have to consider?

Bottom line: I want to have a PC that gives me enough power for a reasonable budget - but on the other hand, I don't want to save $100-200 if that means that I later found out that I purchased a PC that's too slow/weak for my needs!

I have thought about purchasing this CPU:
Intel Core i7-6700 Skylake Prosessor

Thanks for any help :D
Last edited by dagovitsj on Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Building new PC for Acqua - LGA 1151 or LGA 2011?

Postby Avgatzeblouz » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:16 am

Hey man, I've been through this in june this year, and went from i7 3820 to i7 6800k (2011 to 2011v3). Performances are better, but not outrageously better. After this, I think that the best is :

2011v3 (more futureproof)
the fastest cpu you can get, regardless of the core number. Frequency is the key, I think.
i7, drop the Xeon you can't overclock.

Build your new one, but KEEP YOUR ACTUAL PC !! I kept my 3820, and use it through VePRO to process my lead vocal track. Works great !!
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Re: Building new PC for Acqua - LGA 1151 or LGA 2011?

Postby dagovitsj » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:57 pm

Thanks, Avgatzeblouz!

Right, som LGA 2011-v3 is more futureproof? Can you explain how?

Ok, I'll drop Xeon then, and go for i7.

Do you have a lot of RAM?

Other things I have to consider? I'm thinking about purchasing an Asus x99 motherboard, seems like they're rock solid.

PS: Very strange that this post isn't showing in the 'View active topics' - I didn't noticed that you had answered me before now. Hope that they fix that bug soon!
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Re: Building new PC for Acqua - LGA 1151 or LGA 2011?

Postby Melodist » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:45 am

dagovitsj wrote:Thanks, Avgatzeblouz!

Right, som LGA 2011-v3 is more futureproof? Can you explain how?

Ok, I'll drop Xeon then, and go for i7.

Do you have a lot of RAM?

Other things I have to consider? I'm thinking about purchasing an Asus x99 motherboard, seems like they're rock solid.

PS: Very strange that this post isn't showing in the 'View active topics' - I didn't noticed that you had answered me before now. Hope that they fix that bug soon!


I'd go with at least 8 cores and a clock of not below 2.7 GHz. If you want to populate an entire session with these plugins, you'll need a very fast machine.
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Re: Building new PC for Acqua - LGA 1151 or LGA 2011?

Postby jfjer379 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:53 pm

i do pretty well with a 5820k 6 core clocked at 4Ghz
i clocked it just by changing clock speed in bios,
no need to have any overclocking experience and fiddling with many settings before it gets perfectly stable
its the easiest overcklock i have ever done


on this computer in win7 64 Reaper64 i can run 70 pink everything engaged including inane mode

and im running only 16GB of ram LOL
but it was the ram that forced me to stop adding more PINK`s in my extreme test though, i think i could have added 4-5 more pinks if i haven't run out of ram
if i overclock to 4.4-4.5Ghz i would very likely be able to run 90 PINK or very possibly more
so im going to upgrade to 32GB so i have a better headroom with the ram

i dont think 128GB is ever going to be needed
64GB will be more than enough running lots of heavy sample based vst instruments and lots of Acquas and nebula even with a I7-6950X running God knows how many Acquas and Nebulas 64GB will be enough

the reason i went the route with the x99 platform(2011-v3)
is its more future proof if i need a more extreme processor like the I7-6950X 10 core for example in 3-4 years

I`ll just swap CPU`s , no need to change any HW
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Re: Building new PC for Acqua - LGA 1151 or LGA 2011?

Postby dagovitsj » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:26 pm

the reason i went the route with the x99 platform(2011-v3)
is its more future proof if i need a more extreme processor like the I7-6950X 10 core for example in 3-4 years

I`ll just swap CPU`s , no need to change any HW


- Yes! Thanks, this is very useful info! Thanks for chiming in here :D

Right, so 64 GB is probably enough even with a lot of VSTi like Omnisphere, Kontakt 5 together with Nebula/Acquas?! My goal: put the money where I'll get most bang for the buck, no need to buy an "overkill" motherboard if it's not necessary.

Sidenote: I'm considering thunderbolt though, 'cause I'm probably going to change my sound card within a year or so. I'm using a TC Electronics Konnekt24D with Firewire, but I reckon Firewire is a standard that's kind of obsolete now? What is the main standard now in 2016?
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