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Re: Inside Nebula wet/dry mix

Postby namooz » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:49 am

These are Henry Olonga's tips. I (Chuck Baker) am wondering if it applies to all Nebula programs. I posted the question, not Henry. Thanks.
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Re: Inside Nebula wet/dry mix

Postby basaristudios@gmail.com » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:39 pm

Sorry Namooz...what HO is referring to and all the other Devs
its just to how Nebulas Meters work and that in no way affects
the Audio quality but the problem is Nebulas Meters are not correct.
So you should forget about it, use a meter outside Nebula.
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Re: Inside Nebula wet/dry mix

Postby basaristudios@gmail.com » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:43 pm

This is how your levels should look like in Cubase before they
hit Nebula, that is kinda MUST. Thats at all Faders at 0.

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Re: Inside Nebula wet/dry mix

Postby namooz » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:16 am

Thank you! I've been using -18dbfs peak for a bit now. I use the LSR meter on each track, using a Reaper volume smoother to get the level down before any Nebula inserts if necessary and one after to bring it to around -12dbfs. (I run everything through a console/outboard so finding a good SNR is a must). I put T Petherick's tape on every channel as the last plugin (sometimes boost that to -12dbfs). Once I started this whole process I noticed a more 3D image and more clarity. I always compare on a single mono speaker and have noticed improvement there, too. Cheers

PS: My overall channel levels set at around -8 dbfs after the post DAW fader going into the Aurora…..just tickling the yellow Lynx meter (-6 max dbfs) when all is said and done.
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Re: Inside Nebula wet/dry mix

Postby basaristudios@gmail.com » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:19 pm

Hey Namooz, after you pass thru the processes it not important
anymore if you are at -18db for the processors...BUT...you still
have to hit the busses and the master at -18db before the processes
and then after that you can maximize. Now, what i showed you in
the video is -18dbfs Peak, its not RMS. If you put a VU meter on
those tracks it will not read 0dbu, it will be way below which is
also correct. But things from there get even more complicated.
Yes a compressor needs to be hit at -18db BUT...is it an RMS or PEAK
Compressor? Hitting and RMS Compressor with -18db Peak and -18db
RMS it will be completely different in each process...and so on.
And RMS Compressor hit with -18db Peak will not react much because
it is not detecting the RMS but it detects the Peaks which are
way higher then the RMS and the opposite, hitting a Peak Compressor
with -0dbu RMS will put it in overdrive because the peaks will be too high.
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Re: Inside Nebula wet/dry mix

Postby namooz » Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:52 am

Yes, thank you. The LSR meter is dbfs as I mentioned earlier. I'm using it as a peak meter, doing exactly as you commented. All of my interface channel outputs go to console inserts out to outboard then back. I use no DAW subs or master. After it leaves the interface it is all analog until final mixed CD. ;)
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Re: Inside Nebula wet/dry mix

Postby namooz » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:05 am

Wanted to ask………can you hit the new Amethyst plugin at -10dbfs and then turn the pre down to -18dbfs for the rest? I've been using another Reaper vol plugin to lower before. Much Thanks.
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Re: Inside Nebula wet/dry mix

Postby basaristudios@gmail.com » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:24 am

Yes you can and as i noticed i the trial i think Amethyst needs to get hit a little harder.
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Re: Inside Nebula wet/dry mix

Postby namooz » Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:21 am

I'm getting the same vibe. Thanks
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Re: Inside Nebula wet/dry mix

Postby Tim Petherick » Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:47 am

I've made a wet/dry in classic phaser and mellow echo chamber.

The way I did it was to attach a level to the kernals and control it via mix. I the added a dry control to the same mix. I've created a patch but the patch would not work for all presets. So in other words it can be done but not really by the user.
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