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Re: Not exactly a third party library...

Postby richie43 » Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:41 am

Yeah, i am SUPPOSED to be regulating my own outgoing currency these days.... I have been scooping up Nebula libraries for almost a year now, and I am not made of money.... Thank God my wife loves me..... Mercado, the NobleQ really is a nice eq for a non-Neb. I wish it were legal and ethical to share, I bought it with very little demo. I have Michael's Aqua NiceEQ and N-10-AT4 eq, but these are only a little non-Neb. They are very good too.
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Re: Not exactly a third party library...

Postby Barendse » Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:47 am

Make a mix with 30 psp plugins and one with 30 Nebula plugins and than come back to me.

The strength of Nebula is the great build up effect. That's why I use Nebula. Inserting just one plug in a single track doesn't mean much to me.
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Re: Not exactly a third party library...

Postby yr » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:17 am

Barendse wrote:Make a mix with 30 psp plugins and one with 30 Nebula plugins and than come back to me.

The strength of Nebula is the great build up effect. That's why I use Nebula. Inserting just one plug in a single track doesn't mean much to me.


Hard to know before you try. That said, there are many Nebula/hardware processors you wouldn't use 30 times in a mix. That doesn't make them better or worse.

Many of the psp plugs can actually give a clean/transparent sound when necessary. The way I see it, they (PSP) produce some very good tools that can be used effectively alongside Nebula.

Anyways, another 2 clips (Pool/Noble) with +6dB@30Hz (matched FR&THD as best as I could):
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Re: Not exactly a third party library...

Postby the19thbear » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:46 pm

C=nebula
D=PSP

C seems to have more air..
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Re: Not exactly a third party library...

Postby richie43 » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:15 pm

Barendse wrote:Make a mix with 30 psp plugins and one with 30 Nebula plugins and than come back to me.

The strength of Nebula is the great build up effect. That's why I use Nebula. Inserting just one plug in a single track doesn't mean much to me.


I hear ya. I agree as well, but I think it's important to stay open minded and "open ear-ed" to other possible great tools. The Nebula build-up is indeed awesome, like hardware, but some really nice non-Neb plugs can add a flavor of it's own.
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Re: Not exactly a third party library...

Postby mathias » Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:16 pm

@yr

nice example, thanks.
depending on the mix-scenario, either one could be a good decision.

C is a little more full bodied, transients don't stick out that much, brings the "oummph" of the bass/room a little more to the surface.

D has some "edge" to it, transients stick out more, a little more controlled bass.

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Re: Not exactly a third party library...

Postby yr » Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:42 pm

Thanks for the observations Mathias. Matching the LS isn't trivial because the NobleQex rolls of some of the HF once the valve switch is engaged (which I don't like btw). I compensated for it by setting the Hi-Shelf frequency to 40kHz and boosting a bit to get a much more similar frequency response to the PoolTeq. Adjusting the HF had no effect on the structure of the harmonic distortion as far as I could tell. To match the THD levels I had to set the valve to somewhere between 10-11 o'clock.

Last pair: +6dB@3kHz

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Re: Not exactly a third party library...

Postby mathias » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:08 pm

well, it is just not possible, to make the perfect comparison. :)

in the last examples i would decide for E. the noise from the fingerboard is a little bit more prominent, but i find it much more clear and defined. so the bass can be clearly heard with his contribution to the music

F is too blurry for my taste.

so, which is psp and which nebula?

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Re: Not exactly a third party library...

Postby yr » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:30 pm

A,D,E = PoolTeQ
B,C,F = NobleQex

I like the hi/mid on The PSP and the low on the PTeq. I Can't say one is better then the other...
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Re: Not exactly a third party library...

Postby TranscendingMusic » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:32 pm

Actually mathias nailed it and spot on with the descriptions too, just as I experienced this plugin. yr, just for clearing it up, was I right about my assessment in your first shootout post?
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