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Re: Henry Olonga releases Vintage Titan EQ

Postby Dogbite » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:25 pm

Hey, no worries!

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Re: Henry Olonga releases Vintage Titan EQ

Postby Michael Homa » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:23 pm

h-man wrote:
Michael Homa wrote:Hi Henry, congrats on your first commercial library. Helios, way to go man! Been waiting for this one.
One point of critique though, the preset structure is so qclone. I know you're a qclone user. It seems when I'm using the eq and try to decide between a 2 or 4 db boost I have to actually launch another Nebula instance. That's tedious. Is there a way you could merge the programs? Or is there some kinda workflow I'm missing here?
Thanks a lot for your work anyway.
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Hi Michael,

Time constraints led me to sample this way :cry: . I had 10 hours to get as much as I could. I recorded other things that day and could not spend all my time on this one eq sampling to create a parametric sweepable package - so I sampled not in NAT ; which does not allow simultaneous recording ( as far as I know and would also limit me to 2 channels every 30 minutes ; not a lot of presets would be made ) but in Reaper to allow me to maximise my time and give a broad representation of the eq as well as record four other channels of other hardware pieces.

Maybe this may help - perhaps view it more as a 'console package' with the added boosts, cuts and dips around the place. As an aside, yes I am a q-clone user and producer and I do like the approach of committing to a sound as opposed to infinite tweaking. I do call my packages and website 'presets' because they are designed for getting you there quickly. It also allows me to produce packages a lot quicker - I wear many hats and time is finite in my busy life and I spend a lot of time on the road. This does not suite everybody's approach I admit so to circumvent the issues of not being able to tweak, again as richie43 has suggested and I have suggested in my first and third posts, grab any old transparent VST eq and place it before the Titan and sculpt your sound to taste going into Nebula. I suggest it will not sound like your typical digital clinical tweak because the Titan will impart its flavour onto the audio. One way to test this yourself is to do what I have suggested and then bypass the Titan to see if it works for you. I hope you will see that you actually have more tweak room with an algorithmic eq with its overlapping bands ( Something Nebula does not do well yet - you need multiple instances for the most part and this leads to a build up of distortion and a perhaps a loss of clarity sometimes). For greater authenticity, you can use the emulation offerings by algorithmic companies that have cloned this specific eq and use them to carve your sound.

Again - not a perfect library for everyone because of its limitations but I hope it enriches your arsenal. :D

I understand. Thanks for the advice Henry and thanks again for you effort. It does enrich my arsenal! :-) Just the preamp alone makes a beatiful vintage, analogue sound. And that's alone worth the price imo.
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Re: Henry Olonga releases Vintage Titan EQ

Postby Henry Olonga » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:31 pm

Hi Dogbite,

Not at home but reached a computer. What you are seeing is my internal calibration. Use the input to drive the channel is the rule of thumb. I calibrated my presets so that a signal at full scale digital would distort at around about 5 Db boost on the input. I used a loud commercial song to get to that point.( You would need to drop the output by the same amount to prevent clipping on output if you overload my settings ). I mention this in the manual without any real detail but so that it is clearer let me try and explain - probably very badly but here goes.....

It is not a high pass/low pass filter combo even though it appears that way, but a boost that has been calibrated so that the top of the peak is just below unity. To edit, I begin by boosting the input to +6 dbs on most occasions and then finding the best distortion point (Yes it does vary) and then calibrating so the input and distortion point work together without clipping.

I felt this allowed the presets to act like hardware in conjunction with the input and not clip prematurely internally with such large boost settings. As you drive the input you begin to approach distortion.

You will notice a drop in volume of course when a preset is initiated but this is indicative of the headroom you have. So lets say you have a guitar that peaks at -6 Dbs you should in theory be able to set the input to +5 dbs and you should be able to just start to hit the max distortion of a preset before the peak leads to 'breakup' without having to touch the output. At +6 dbs it is touch and go. If you overload the input i.e go over -5 dbs on the way in, then it starts to distort badly but also the need to turn the output down comes into play or the output clips. I am not at home and the presets are not in front of me but this is the general idea I had.

Use the input to get your level back as you also introduce channel distortion. There isn't a lot of it on these channels mind you. To be honest the reason why I have done it this way this will become clearer in my next distortion type package due for release soon.

If you need to work another way you may want to recalibrate them by going into the deeper settings in Nebula and placing your own settings and saving. That may take a while though and it is labour intensive. The calibration is actually the most intensive part of editing for me. Don't know about other developers.....

Best wishes - Hope it isn't too confusing. Basically - use the input fader if it is too low for you. Work on -6 being the sweet point for peaks if you want to drive the channel.

And to answer the other part of your question - I sampled in a round robin fashion. I did not have time to record each frequency independantly four times on each channel. So you have I setting of MAX at 2.8 k from just one channel only for example and the next higher setting is from the adjacent channel. I think that it gives a more varied sound throughout the package if you see what I mean. If you like the colour of a specific channel but wish for example that I had sampled it slightly lower at the centre frequency then you can always use a digital parametric to lower that spot. :idea:
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Re: Henry Olonga releases Vintage Titan EQ

Postby Dogbite » Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:05 pm

Yep - gotcha!

Thanks for taking the time to write a detailed response -

All the best!
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Re: Henry Olonga releases Vintage Titan EQ

Postby LouMarciano » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:42 pm

What is the secret to getting this EQ to work?
I am running Nebula 3 Pro 1.3.504.
In pro mode I see 44100 Hz with blinking arrow; all other EQs, Compressors, etc are working correctly.

- Lou
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Re: Henry Olonga releases Vintage Titan EQ

Postby Bsharp » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:25 am

Thanks Henry,
This library sounds pretty fly. :)
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Re: Henry Olonga releases Vintage Titan EQ

Postby Owen » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:39 pm

LouMarciano wrote:What is the secret to getting this EQ to work?
I am running Nebula 3 Pro 1.3.504.
In pro mode I see 44100 Hz with blinking arrow; all other EQs, Compressors, etc are working correctly.

- Lou


Try increasing your Rate Conversion time and see if that makes any difference after you do a reload of the plugin and then preset.

Owen ;)
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Re: Henry Olonga releases Vintage Titan EQ

Postby pipamail » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:19 pm

LouMarciano wrote:What is the secret to getting this EQ to work?
I am running Nebula 3 Pro 1.3.504.
In pro mode I see 44100 Hz with blinking arrow; all other EQs, Compressors, etc are working correctly.

- Lou


himhui wrote:
pipamail wrote:Can't get it work :evil:
The program simply don't load.
Help :!:


Put those vectors files into the vectors folder...
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Re: Henry Olonga releases Vintage Titan EQ

Postby vicnestE » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:18 pm

I had a gothic project at hand, and the female lead vocal recorded in semi-pro studio just don't fit in the song. I've tried almost all nebula preamps/consoles before I bought the release. Today I mixed the vocal with satisfaction when applying one of the mid gain preamp programs from Vintage Titan EQ. After the female vocalist finished listening, she seems so solemned, the guitarist asked what went wrong. Then the female vocalist bursted weeping due to she never thought that her recorded voice could be so fitting.

All the inconvenience to browse presets in my "Nebula3CoreII64 Reverb - Henry.dll" seems worth it :) And it's not so hard to use since they load pretty fast on my computer.
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Re: Henry Olonga releases Vintage Titan EQ

Postby richie43 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:52 pm

vicnestE wrote:I had a gothic project at hand, and the female lead vocal recorded in semi-pro studio just don't fit in the song. I've tried almost all nebula preamps/consoles before I bought the release. Today I mixed the vocal with satisfaction when applying one of the mid gain preamp programs from Vintage Titan EQ. After the female vocalist finished listening, she seems so solemned, the guitarist asked what went wrong. Then the female vocalist bursted weeping due to she never thought that her recorded voice could be so fitting.

All the inconvenience to browse presets in my "Nebula3CoreII64 Reverb - Henry.dll" seems worth it :) And it's not so hard to use since they load pretty fast on my computer.


For that browser issue, by the way, I just made a Titan EQ only Nebula instance. It loads very very fast and is easy to browse now.
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