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Why this difference?

Postby ramonbahia » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:17 pm

And not to know which is better, but I wonder why this difference in sound?

I used the kick of a song and this added the nebula 73eQ DEMO.

On the other Waves VEQ3

In the same audio did tests with other simulators were all very close to VEQ3.

But the Nebula was very different, oh my doubts then what the nearest hardware?.

Sorry for bad English, By Google

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Fabio Ramon
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Re: Why this difference?

Postby dpclarkson » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:59 pm

Hi Fabio,

I think you just answered your own question. :mrgreen:
The fact that Nebula sounds so very different from
'regular' plugins, is that Nebula is 'sample'-based,
meaning it relies on a stream of impulses, instead of code.
Also, harmonic distortion from the original unit is also being sampled, which gives depth and it 'grips' the sound.
Plugins like Waves S*L/UAD, etc. are actually a bunch of digital coded curves, and have nothing to do with the sound of the original hardware.
Try boosting 10dB at 10KHz with any 'coded' plugin, and the sound, as well as your eardrums fall apart.
You can actually do this with Nebula, just like the hardware!

I could go on like this for hours, but you'll get the picture! 8-)
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Re: Why this difference?

Postby vicnestE » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:58 pm

Waves VEQ = artificial weird vintage sound...
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Re: Why this difference?

Postby ramonbahia » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:44 am

I agree it should have some difference, but in this case
difference and large, which makes me think and that other
are very distant from Hardware?

is logical?

I felt more in depth version of Nebula, to leave
course, used the same EQ.

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Re: Why this difference?

Postby Mimi » Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:08 am

The difference between heaven and hell ...I have waves v3/v4, very plastic .
has no weight or depth.
stoned.
nebula is deep, fat in great detail.
Not 100% hardware, most certainly 95%.
The others not so.
I love nebula, i will die beside him.
Um beijo!!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: Why this difference?

Postby highvoltage » Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:10 pm

i agree there shouldnt be THIS much difference if you set up the eq to the same setting. I have compared it too, and in about 20% of the time i was wrong guessing between nebula and waves.

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i have tested it again, and i have to agree, they sound really different
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Re: Why this difference?

Postby vicnestE » Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:28 pm

You must at least match the curves closely in VST analyser.
And match the harmonic level if you like.

But I think 73eQ and Waves VEQs are pretty hard to achieve the same EQ curve.
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