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Re: CDSoundMaster "N-TEN-AT4" Now Available !!!

Postby cdsoundmaster » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:37 pm

I haven't used SoundForge, but is it possible to load a file first, before opening the preset?
I believe that when a Neb instance opens, it looks for the sample rate of what is present. If a file is not open, I think it will get the rate from the program source preference or it will get it from the program rate.

I think if you have a 44 or 48 file open first, then open the preset chain, I believe it will load them all at the rate you want.


dpclarkson wrote:
Hi there,
It sounds like you just need the right setting in Nebula as a one time setting. I don't know the precise minimum setting for rate convert, but once it is done it is done, and it works well for all programs. It will simply convert the programs to 48 for you and it tests well on all systems this way.


Hey Michael, thanks for the reply!
I'm using Nebula only for offline-rendering in Soundforge 9, and I make
chains of Nebula in SF's plugin-chainer.
Whenever I create a new chain, everything loads fine, correct sampling-rate, etc.
When I save a chain as a preset and recall the saved chain, the arrow is blinking again...and reloading works, but it's a pain.
So it might as well be a flaw in SF, instead of Nebula 3 (latest version),
but I want to rule out everything completely, before pointing fingers.
Can anyone reconstruct this?

Thanks!
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Re: CDSoundMaster "N-TEN-AT4" Now Available !!!

Postby ngarjuna » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:44 am

That's exactly what I wanted to know, thank you!
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Re: CDSoundMaster "N-TEN-AT4" Now Available !!!

Postby cdsoundmaster » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:41 am

Awesome!

ngarjuna wrote:That's exactly what I wanted to know, thank you!
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Re: CDSoundMaster "N-TEN-AT4" Now Available !!!

Postby Barendse » Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:59 am

dpclarkson wrote:
Hi there,
It sounds like you just need the right setting in Nebula as a one time setting. I don't know the precise minimum setting for rate convert, but once it is done it is done, and it works well for all programs. It will simply convert the programs to 48 for you and it tests well on all systems this way.


Hey Michael, thanks for the reply!
I'm using Nebula only for offline-rendering in Soundforge 9, and I make
chains of Nebula in SF's plugin-chainer.
Whenever I create a new chain, everything loads fine, correct sampling-rate, etc.
When I save a chain as a preset and recall the saved chain, the arrow is blinking again...and reloading works, but it's a pain.
So it might as well be a flaw in SF, instead of Nebula 3 (latest version),
but I want to rule out everything completely, before pointing fingers.
Can anyone reconstruct this?

Thanks!


This might be a known issue, check the Metaplugin thread. Same problem.
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Re: CDSoundMaster "N-TEN-AT4" Now Available !!!

Postby dpclarkson » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:07 am

I converted the N-TEN-AT4 to 44.1KHz in NAT, and it works great!
What will the next release be, a 'N-TEN-AT1'?
I'm also experimenting with sampling rates of the R2R-library.
I noticed that there's a steep roll-off in the high frequencies, when
a 96K program is not converted to 44.1/48K, but it sounds great
with close-miced drums!
So if needed, I render drums at a wrong samplerate on purpose,
just to get this 'low-pass' effect.
Oh, and the low bump is much bigger, and the high-mids are more
pronounced.
Try this with regular plugins... :mrgreen:

EDIT: after converting the whole 1084 library to 44.1K, there are 2 'shelf' programs that get an error in NAT (low shelf 3k and low shelf cln).
Michael, could you take a look at those 2 programs?

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Re: CDSoundMaster "N-TEN-AT4" Now Available !!!

Postby cdsoundmaster » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:13 pm

Hi there!

I don't handle any support regarding converting rates in NAT. It is a subject dealing strictly with the Neb engine.
If it is based on the same formula for what is converted live in the program, it should work fine. The issue with those probably stems from relationship of n2p and original n2v.

Regarding what is next...

The 1081 will be coming from Alex, I believe after 1073 and S*L. The '81 is very nice and unique. It is a slight variation from the 73 and 84 which are identical in format with added frequency choices. The 81 is a slightly updated electronics, some like the sound better some worse. But, it has many added eq features. For me the 84 is the perfect mix of sound and features. The 81 for some is better because they like even more controls, but to me the 84 nails the perfect sound on the eq's I use more often. If the '81 gets interpolated in that release it will be great as well; you'll have every possible thing an 84 and 81 could possible do!
My next programs include some very good deals on consoles (one very highly requested), two rare eq's, a freebie, and some things long awaited that will require much testing and a bunch of time!

dpclarkson wrote:I converted the N-TEN-AT4 to 44.1KHz in NAT, and it works great!
What will the next release be, a 'N-TEN-AT1'?
I'm also experimenting with sampling rates of the R2R-library.
I noticed that there's a steep roll-off in the high frequencies, when
a 96K program is not converted to 44.1/48K, but it sounds great
with close-miced drums!
So if needed, I render drums at a wrong samplerate on purpose,
just to get this 'low-pass' effect.
Oh, and the low bump is much bigger, and the high-mids are more
pronounced.
Try this with regular plugins... :mrgreen:

EDIT: after converting the whole 1084 library to 44.1K, there are 2 'shelf' programs that get an error in NAT (low shelf 3k and low shelf cln).
Michael, could you take a look at those 2 programs?

Thanks!
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Re: CDSoundMaster "N-TEN-AT4" Now Available !!!

Postby SWAN » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:40 pm

michael - how come you dont do variable Q in your programs?
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Re: CDSoundMaster "N-TEN-AT4" Now Available !!!

Postby dpclarkson » Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:10 am

michael - how come you dont do variable Q in your programs?


Because there is no variable Q available in the original unit,
in fact, the frequencies in the 1084 are fixed, not sweepable.
So we're lucky with these interpolated programs.
With the N**e, as the BAE 1084, you can switch on a 'high-q'
on the mid-band, that's it.
Once you get to know the 'limitations' of the hardware, you'll
end up having fun with this library! 8-)
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Re: CDSoundMaster "N-TEN-AT4" Now Available !!!

Postby dpclarkson » Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:15 am

My next programs include some very good deals on consoles (one very highly requested), two rare eq's,...


Oh man, I sincerely hope you'll do the EQ-section of the Trident-console
you released earlier!
1081 is coming? Ooooh yeah! :D
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Re: CDSoundMaster "N-TEN-AT4" Now Available !!!

Postby tumburu » Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:38 am

dpclarkson wrote:
michael - how come you dont do variable Q in your programs?


Because there is no variable Q available in the original unit,
in fact, the frequencies in the 1084 are fixed, not sweepable.


The question is generic, the eq programs made by Michael don't have q controls.
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