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What Set of Emulations Comparable to Soundtoys5 ??

Postby doubtingtom37 » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:40 pm

Was on Reaper Forums __ Acustica Core Acqua Engine Thread __ Soundtoys 5 mentioned. Heard positive comment, but this Bundle has no specific 'mainstream' FX (EQ, Compressor) yet is touted by several well-known studio engineers. Clearly they use other FX to produce winning results (Phaser, Flanger, Echo/Delay, Distortion, etc.).

What 3rd party library selections get close, and at what point does one turn to Soundtoys for certain solutions? or not :roll:

Starting point is Nebula3 Server & 3rd Party, but perhaps an Acqua choice :?:

Hope some here have exposure to Soundtoys and can provide some guidance.
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Re: What Set of Emulations Comparable to Soundtoys5 ??

Postby Avgatzeblouz » Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:07 pm

Soundtoys is really in the FX domain. Not Eqs, nor compressors. And they are the best in that domain. Echoboy, decapitator, radiator, microshift. All amazing plugz. And I don't think there is a Nebula alternative to such creative endless possibilities.
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Re: What Set of Emulations Comparable to Soundtoys5 ??

Postby doubtingtom37 » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:00 pm

Great response and very timely for my needs! I had this general impression but truly needed some knowledgeable reinforcement to set priorities ....... with Blk Fri approaching rapidly.

Thanks very much
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Re: What Set of Emulations Comparable to Soundtoys5 ??

Postby Avgatzeblouz » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:07 pm

welcome !
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Re: What Set of Emulations Comparable to Soundtoys5 ??

Postby AlexB » Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:10 am

Avgatzeblouz wrote:Soundtoys is really in the FX domain. Not Eqs, nor compressors. And they are the best in that domain. Echoboy, decapitator, radiator, microshift. All amazing plugz. And I don't think there is a Nebula alternative to such creative endless possibilities.


I totally agree. And I use it! ;)
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Re: What Set of Emulations Comparable to Soundtoys5 ??

Postby KrazyKat46 » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:13 am

@ Alex B: Incredible post; Many thanks! I have the Demo and now realize ___ at least at my level of usage __ that it stands apart for its target market.
No confusion now in terms of A-A and 3rd Party emulations.

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Re: What Set of Emulations Comparable to Soundtoys5 ??

Postby Brian » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:15 pm

Soundtoys 5 really represents a vast expanse of tweakability and especially excels in pitch and time-based processing. It's also extremely fun to play with in real-time and incorporate into a performance.

These qualities are very different than what Nebula brings to the table, but in fact a great complement to it (Nebula's subtle tone & harmonic coloring programs along with EQ and compression are it's current and remarkable strengths).

Primal Tap in particular is a very inspiring effect and has several ways to modulate delay lines, create different distortions and feedback tone, self-oscillation, pitch shift, generate diffused low-fi reverb sounds, and a 'freeze' looping feature.

Nebula simply can't reproduce these features - although in the future with zero-latency and a hybrid approach (Nebula for tone/distortion, and an algorithmic delay line) something similar may be possible.
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Re: What Set of Emulations Comparable to Soundtoys5 ??

Postby KrazyKat46 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:29 pm

Very cool Post @Brian and much appreciated. Supplements and reinforces previous posts nicely. I understand the complementary relationship with Nebula3/Acqua and have enjoyed the Demo greatly. Will spend a bit more time with Primal Tap after your comments.

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Re: What Set of Emulations Comparable to Soundtoys5 ??

Postby Tim Petherick » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:43 pm

Nebula can emulate tremolo and phasers very well. Flangers no, chorus maybe....
I worked on getting the best results for quite a long time..you need to follow the instructions on set up though.

here are some clips from classic phasers

https://soundcloud.com/timpetherick/hen ... horus/sets


A few free ones here https://www.dropbox.com/s/bex8cptdj06jl ... s.zip?dl=0

For info on how to use look on the phasers page
http://www.timpetherick.co.uk/downloads ... c-phasers/
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Re: What Set of Emulations Comparable to Soundtoys5 ??

Postby RE301 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:15 pm

As mentioned already some of the ST fx like Crystallizer really stand on their own.. I have some of the ST plugs (phase, echo & panner) and have used the time based effects on another system..

When it comes to phasers to my ears the Tim P phasers sound better, more complex and like the real thing as compared to ST Phasemistress...

And the Cupwise Nolard tape delay again sounds very lifelike & 'better' as a tape delay than ST Echoboy..

However both Phasemistress & Echoboy are infinitely more tweakable with lots of options & can also be automated

I really like ST Little Tap & will undoubtedly be shelling out for Primal Tap..
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