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Question about Cupwise Creamy 660 Pass-through program

Postby pleplo » Tue May 06, 2014 3:13 pm

Maybe Tim can answer me.

Been using this crazy awesome comp for sometime. I bought the set with the Pass-through set A B and C. (I read in manual if you buy D its a Pass-through using driven 1176).

Anyway, my question is, the Pass-through are awesome I use them on soft synths to give some life and analog movement and recently tried it on the masterbus and I really like it (placed before Gemini Audio KultComp 100% driven tube program). sound full and warm.

Is there a reason why the Pass-through are compressing the signal? this is what I like but why are they compressing if it's suposed to be no compression just passing-through the E A R comp? Playing with the trim control compress more or less but I like the weight and transient shaping it does to the music. its like it's putting the music far being with and added elephant parade. So sometimes I use it as a compressor instead of regular comp program of the 660 cause of the added distortion and color.

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Re: Question about Cupwise Creamy 660 Pass-through program

Postby pleplo » Wed May 07, 2014 9:13 am

no one? :(

anyway I removed the pass through program on my master bus as I finish a mix. was cool at first all this color and weight but its now too much. it kills too much attack and punch :( I will reserve it for soft synth and other stuff I want extreme color :)
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Re: Question about Cupwise Creamy 660 Pass-through program

Postby Cupwise » Thu May 08, 2014 4:30 pm

glad you like the set! uhm, the reason for the compression in some of those programs, is *partly* because there really isn't any way to turn the compression off, on that unit. so i had to try to adjust the threshold controls so that i wasn't getting any compression. but with the pass throughs where i sent hotter and hotter signals into the thing, especially the one where i used a 1176 to drive the level going in, eventually some compression was just un-avoidable.

but another reason is just because that's how saturation works. with the level of saturation/distortion i was getting with some of the samples, you just aren't going to get that kind of distortion without some compression. if you overdrive anything enough to get that kind of saturation, it's going to also compress the signal. so really if you like the distortion by having higher levels going in, it's pretty much married to that compression effect. you can use trim to get lower input levels which should give you less/no compression, but then you will also have less saturation. that's just how it works.
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Re: Question about Cupwise Creamy 660 Pass-through program

Postby pleplo » Fri May 09, 2014 6:28 pm

Thank you very much Tim that explains it very well. :)
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Re: Question about Cupwise Creamy 660 Pass-through program

Postby Melon_Jack » Thu May 15, 2014 11:08 am

:| Hmmm. I have another issue with pass-trhough program (honestly buyed today A+B set only for them =D)
Sound getting clicky.. And louder, than original sound.. How do Trim and drive settings works? Which version of nebula should i use?
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Re: Question about Cupwise Creamy 660 Pass-through program

Postby Support » Thu May 15, 2014 11:18 am

Melon_Jack wrote::| Hmmm. I have another issue with pass-trhough program (honestly buyed today A+B set only for them =D)
Sound getting clicky.. And louder, than original sound.. How do Trim and drive settings works? Which version of nebula should i use?


Upload audio examples, programs settings and Nebula settings.
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Re: Question about Cupwise Creamy 660 Pass-through program

Postby Melon_Jack » Thu May 15, 2014 11:48 am

Here. I've just thinking, what that's saturation program which add color (like Henry mojo presets).
Nebula Server 1.3.710 VST64 (Mac) pretty standart settings (conversion - 7000, 2.5 lookahead).
Putting trim to minus 25-30 helping, but anyway, processed signal around 15-16dB louder..
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Re: Question about Cupwise Creamy 660 Pass-through program

Postby Support » Thu May 15, 2014 12:06 pm

Programs settings and Nebula settings screen shot please.

Ps: Audio examples = BWAV 24/96 or similar format.
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Re: Question about Cupwise Creamy 660 Pass-through program

Postby Melon_Jack » Thu May 15, 2014 12:15 pm

Here
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Re: Question about Cupwise Creamy 660 Pass-through program

Postby Support » Thu May 15, 2014 12:35 pm

See:
1 - Look Nebula Program emulation RTE value. Look the wet file peak length in Samplitude.
2 - Look your level value (see peak), in TP will be distortion for sure.

Read:
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=24830
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11382
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1846
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1859
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1356
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1069

Check Nebula .XML MAST page tags.
. UP
. PROTECTIONDB
. FORCEOFFSET
. AHEADLENGTH
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