Hello! I have a question towards the program PrecisionAnalog Panner. The question is easy to answer if you have clear jijiji. When using this program? Just behind the Console Buss Out or can also be used after the group buss console.
PS: When you put behind the console buss out the audio level drops considerably, I guess that makes up for it with out Nebula
Depends on the pan LAW, and the pan-law your DAW uses.
Since this is a -3 or -4.5 pan law, that (normally) means that a centered signal get's _lowered_ to compensate. So that if you put a signal only on your left side it will sounds as the same level as being mono.
This can be done by boosting the sides, or lowering the center. This program does it by lowering the center, that's why you notice a level drop by just putting it on in the center position.
For example, the same thing happens in Reaper when you change the default pan-law from 'none' to '-3' or '-4.5'. The center get's dropped.
So we could say that the Pan -4.5 helps us open our mix towards the sides, giving a greater sense of openness, at least this is what I also noticed, in part, to a decrease of the level. And I work with reaper, you say that probaré PAN. But if you're so kind, that just ¡s used at the output of the Master Buss, right? Do not use in or in subgroups or individual channels, right?
Jordi wrote:So we could say that the Pan -4.5 helps us open our mix towards the sides, giving a greater sense of openness, at least this is what I also noticed, in part, to a decrease of the level. And I work with reaper, you say that probaré PAN. But if you're so kind, that just ¡s used at the output of the Master Buss, right? Do not use in or in subgroups or individual channels, right?
Well, no not really. This basic panning theory. Do know that the 'precision analog panner' AlexB supplies with MFC is a little special analog panner device he created himself and then sampled. Any 'openness' it might give you is probably because of this .
Basic panning: When you put a signal all the way on the left side, it's only on the right speaker. When you put a signal all the way on the right side, it's only the right speaker. How do you get something in the center? By placing it on both the left and right speakers. But what happens when you have two signals and you add them together? They get louder! So without any pan law, a signal that is centered is louder than the same signal on just the left or right side. Consoles had pan laws built in so that this volume differences is compensated. So when something is centered, the volume is lowered to compensate for the fact that it are two signals added together.
Without any pan law, if you start panning something hard left, it would go to the left but also loose in level (and energy). The idea of a pan law is that if you pan something left, you really hear it going to the left without anything else (like level) changing.
Reaper defaults to no pan law after a clean install, but can be changed (in project settings) to be -3, -4.5 or anything you want (boosting the sides or lowering the center), and can be altered per channel (and on the master). It's normal to have the same setting on all channels though! For bus-groups I sometimes change it, but that's it. I know Presonus Studio One 2.6 has a pan law of -3 that can't be changed (and I think cubase will have the same then?). Old N**e desks had -3 while (old) S*L desks had -4.5?
Anyway, don't confuse the effects of pan-law (proper panning without volume loss) with any analog magic the AlexB panner might add .