SWAN wrote:I seriously doubt any legitimate Nebula users will download pirate libs. It is so disrespectful to the ethos of Nebula community.
While I like to be optimistic, I do think that there will always be "legitimate" users who still download the pirated wares. I think that Nebula software will not suffer as much as standard algo plugs since the upload and download sizes are typically larger for Nebula. What would worry me even more is if the Nebula software itself gets cracked, then there will likely be a bigger surge of pirated libraries.....
Sadly, the software itself is already cracked. I'm not gonna lie, long time ago i was also a warez user. Then i found nebula, since then i decided to go clean. It's not only its great sound, nebula also thought me to learn what i use, and depend on my ears. I found nebula to have a very nice community as well where users and devs are truly helping each other. So it saddens me when i saw that it got pirated. This thread made me visit those sites i used to know, just to check it out. It felt weird though, seeing all the people who collect and collect, just what i used to do.
The only thing we as users can do is, keep buying from the devs, and don't get tempted, to steal them! Don't hear the bullshit like 'demo before buy'.
For the devs, especially AlexB, i can feel your pain, and hope that the discouragement gets over soon. We still need your wonderful works.
Just a suggestion, can all developers start using AITB authorization method or some other methods to curb piracy for future products?
These pirates even pirate stuff that cost only 3 pounds which is really heartless & appalling.
I know that there's much hassle when it comes to protection schemes but..we as Nebula users can learn and get use to that kind of AITB security method rather than having to see our developers work get pirated and to assure that future products will not be able to be pirated.
Also, maybe the Admin here can make certain subforum only exclusive to Nebula Pro users just like how Slate digital forum is. Only when one purchase Nebula Pro, they are allowed to see the subforum etc. This is also good in a way to keep these pirates from getting information.
What are the difficulties, from a library developer standpoint, in implementing the challange/response protection method of Nebula and AITB? Why this behaviour is not the default with the libraries? For the user is a one-time istant procedure so it would bring no burden at all.
The authorization is related to hard drive. So when you change your main hard drive for any cause, you have to wait for the new authorization from the library providers manually. Only AITB has automatic auth installation currently. Acustica audio still uses semi-manual process for authorizations.
There used to be a post about whether developers should use similar protection long time ago.
Before the post, AlexB handled auth code manually. The community favors no protection, so he released all libraries unprotected. It's a great move since people were afraid of no longer being able to use the library when you upgrade your computer if any 3rd party library provider quits or [use your imagination]. And I can use the libraries without any waiting time for manual auth code process. It IS NOT fair to ask every 3rd party library provider to provide automatic auth process.
I was hoping if acustica audio could take care the automatic auth process for 3rd party library providers. But since no one uses auth code protection any more (except AITB with automatic process) and I seldom need official programs in such hurry, the need for such hassle is lowered.
Creating a solid and convenient protection is hard. Support the 3rd party libraries by buying their great releases.
I like the idea of secret sub forum. Without the knowledge from the contributing community, nebula could be too hard to use and just a waste of hard disk of the leeches. I got the best usage tips from the precious forum.
Understand. I didn't take in account the non-corporate side of the question. Anyway as someone already said in this topic I wouldn't be that bothered, since library are so cheap that anyone "serious" about music both working with or serious hobbist will be glad to buy original and in this case I'm confident leaked libraries are the greatest advertising at this stage of Nebula/libs life. If it was more widespread it could have been an harm (but in that case developers already had thousands of sells so realtive harm let's say) but since Nebula still has a very small user base, I'm sure this will boost libs sales instead of ruining them. Just my opinion. So all you great and talented library devs keep on with your work!