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my lumberroom sampled :-)

Postby mathias » Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:03 am

i always wanted to use NAT for sampling real rooms, so here we go.
this is my lumber room, sampled clean and with 3 kernels.
these are testversions, with a smaller size. the steps of the testtones were pretty big (4 db).

the programs are meant for mono in, stereo out.
they can give direct signals a nice sense of room/space.
i saved the programs as fully wet, because they would give phase issues, when mixed with the dry signal.
so when you set it up on aux-channels, you have to phase-align dry and wet signal. or give the aux-channel a pre-delay and lower the volume, to minimize phase-issues.
mini-room 1 is the clean version, mini-room 2 has 3 kernels.

have fun and let me know what you think.

download:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9435398/Mini-Rooms%201%2B2.zip

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Re: my lumberroom sampled :-)

Postby richie43 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:17 am

Very cool. Downloaded already and will try them as soon as some batch-processing is done. I am loving the recent increase of user made Nebula presets these days. If only I hadn't gotten rid of my analog gear a few years ago..... NAT and I would be friends I suppose. Thanks again mathias, I'll let you know how they sound on my stuff soon!
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Re: my lumberroom sampled :-)

Postby futur2 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:14 am

richie43 wrote:Very cool. Downloaded already and will try them as soon as some batch-processing is done. I am loving the recent increase of user made Nebula presets these days.


yeah it's really nice to see so much homwbrew stuff.

richie43 wrote:If only I hadn't gotten rid of my analog gear a few years ago..... NAT and I would be friends I suppose.


same with me except i doubt i'd ever make friends with NAT :mrgreen:
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Re: my lumberroom sampled :-)

Postby elam » Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:12 pm

Thanks for you generosity Mathias.I'll test it ASAP.

futur2 wrote:yeah it's really nice to see so much homwbrew stuff.


Totally agree.Keep 'em coming!
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Re: my lumberroom sampled :-)

Postby richie43 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:31 pm

First test; sounds great mathias! And maybe my ears are playing tricks on me, but i am not having any huge phasing issues. Hmmmm. Thanks for these, they add a nice feel to tracks. They are quite fun on drums, crazy with distorted guitars, but very "right" with vocals and dreamy ethereal key pads (so far!). Awesome stuff!
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Re: my lumberroom sampled :-)

Postby mathias » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:49 am

thanks for appreciation and comments so far.
@richie:
nice to hear, that you like it.
it gives some real "roominess" to signals and creates a stereofield, which is not so easy to achieve via hall-plugins.
i was warning about phase issues, because of the very short reflections and the pretty short-delayed "direct"-signal from the speaker-microphones-setup in the room. there is some comb-filtering because of that, when mixing dry and wet.
sometimes this is hearable and not wanted, depends on the source. on a directmic-classical-guitar track here, it made the sound a little bit thin and hard.
it was a solo guitar.
in a mix-scenario on the other hand, this would maybe help to get it through and keep it from interfering too much with other signals.

i will make some more "homebrew", when in have time and creative-ideas. i was thinking in the direction of some experiments, like sending the testtones on a big china gong and recording it as a small room with gong-resonances. could be great on synthstuff ....
we'll see.

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Re: my lumberroom sampled :-)

Postby richie43 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:28 am

Very very cool mathias. I am always willing to "test" (use and use and use) homebrew presets.
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Re: my lumberroom sampled :-)

Postby mathias » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:00 am

i was curious to see if my mono to stereo programs will make a good true stereoreverb.
so i set it up in metaplugin (mini modular host) like this:
two instances of nebula with miniroom 2 (dry at 0 db, FX at 12 db).
left plug-input feeds nebula 1 left and right in, right plug-input feeds nebula 2 left and right in.

nebula 1 left out goes to the left plug-output, nebula 2 right out goes to the right plug-output.
the other two nebula 1+2 channels go to their respective outputs, but are reduced in level (-22 db).
they work as crossfeed between channels.

it works really good to bring things together in the room/stereo-field.
here are two clips from an old fast-made demo with akkordeon and guitar, where i tested this setting:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9435398/hora-mare_original.wav

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9435398/hora-ma ... o-demo.wav

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Re: my lumberroom sampled :-)

Postby mathias » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:28 am

maybe it 's easier to have a picture of the true-stereo routing :lol:

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Re: my lumberroom sampled :-)

Postby Cupwise » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:52 pm

downloading the programs. always cool to see people in the community coming up with stuff. i don't exactly know what a lumberroom is, but it sounds like a cool place to sample.
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