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Re: Erics gearing up for a nebula 1176

Postby sfunk » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:02 pm

Eric i had a quick play. I love all your stuff but i cant really get this to do the heavy duty fun all buttons in stuff. It doesnt sound at all like the reissue i have or the waves/UAD plugins when slammed. Am i missing something or using it incorrectly?

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Re: Erics gearing up for a nebula 1176

Postby faun2500 » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:46 pm

I have to agree with sfunk. It dosen't do that distortion thing that my UAD does.

But at the same time, the UAD does NOT have the punch that this Neb program does.

Using a 4 ratio with a medium-fast attack and the fast release the Neb program was WAY punchier than the UAD. In fact I hate to say it -and it's becoming a bit of a Cliché around here- the UAD sounds flat, lifeless and destroys transients. :P
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Re: Erics gearing up for a nebula 1176

Postby audioanal » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:06 pm

some plots
allbuttons ratio, fast att fast rel harmonic dist
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allbuttons slow attack fast rel harm dist
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allbuttons slow att fast rel freq response
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ratio 4 freq resp (no changes with different att/rel adjustements)
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ratio 4 harm dist
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good comp. I like it specially with fast att/rel allbuttons ratio in snare.
Not for all, yes, but very good for some tracks


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Re: Erics gearing up for a nebula 1176

Postby rhythminmind » Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:10 pm

@sfunk

Yes Nebula can't handle extreme compression over 15-20db just yet. I was debating if I should include the "All In" captures at all. The most common use for them is in extreme cases & I knew it would come up. But they do have many other uses so I included them. I'll quote my thoughts on this from this thread.
http://acustica-audio.com/forum/index.p ... pic#p15786

rhythminmind wrote:I have a sweet spot for Nebula compression.
It took a long time for me to test/figure out it's limitations.
Once you understand them it's a very musical tool.

I'll start off with the "cons"
There are 2 main areas that it can fall short.
*Extreme compression (greater then 15/20db)
*Extreme attack times (Less then 2-5ms)

The attack limitation isn't of much concern to me. I rarely if ever use an attack time faster then 10ms. 10-50ms is the "punch spot" for drum transients to pass.

The extreme compression limitation is an issue if I wanted to really slam a buss to all hell (drum bus obliteration). In those cases i'm not going for pristine sound & other tools can do the job better.

Ok the pro's.
*Best itb channel compression I've used. Can deliver the real world 1-10db of gain reductions with a response & color that I much prefer over standard digital envelopes.
*It comes together in the mix really well. Might be the most important advantage to my ears.
*naturally has a 0-20hz (minimum) side-chain rolloff. Do to most physical hardware limitations. This is something I always have to do manually with most digital plugins.

In the end if you treat it as a musical enhancer & use other tools for surgical/brick-wall tasks it's a great combination.

My 2cents.
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Re: Erics gearing up for a nebula 1176

Postby Mplay » Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:10 pm

Here's the sidechain programs,

They where too big for one post so I split them up,

Enjoy,
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Re: Erics gearing up for a nebula 1176

Postby Mplay » Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:12 pm

Riding on his slay
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Re: Erics gearing up for a nebula 1176

Postby vicnestE » Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:21 pm

Anyone tried it on vocal to catch the quick transient?
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Re: Erics gearing up for a nebula 1176

Postby sfunk » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:30 pm

thanks for the reply Eric. I'd make it clear "Nuke" settings aren't possible. However Alex's MWD can do some heavy duty compression.
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Re: Erics gearing up for a nebula 1176

Postby cps418 » Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:19 am

vicnestE wrote:Anyone tried it on vocal to catch the quick transient?
tried it and loved it, even more so now with the sidechian program. I think for fast catch the transient attacks you have to keep adjusting the threshold to keep it from making quick clamps. I say again 1176 is a funny comp to come to grips with (uad, plug that I have used). It does sound great, if your willing to keep cracking the combination... redial, redial.
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Re: Erics gearing up for a nebula 1176

Postby meloco » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:42 pm

Sorry for being so slow, but what do sidechain programs do?
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