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Re: Test: MWD vs RND5043 / MWeQ vs RND5033

Postby AlexB » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:55 pm

The last tested is Nuendo4.3 if I remember correctly, but it is not only an export issue, the audio engine plays always in this way compared at the neutral-clean-transparent of Samplitude. But I don't want a DAW battle, I know how daws sound (I have tested almost all) and I have done my choice for the most neutral sounding. 8-)
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Re: Test: MWD vs RND5043 / MWeQ vs RND5033

Postby Mercado_Negro » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:42 pm

AlexB wrote:The last tested is Nuendo4.3 if I remember correctly, but it is not only an export issue, the audio engine plays always in this way compared at the neutral-clean-transparent of Samplitude. But I don't want a DAW battle, I know how daws sound (I have tested almost all) and I have done my choice for the most neutral sounding. 8-)


haha what happened there? were you not switching to REAPER, Alessandro? Last time we spoke about DAWs you told me you were leaning towards REAPER.
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Re: Test: MWD vs RND5043 / MWeQ vs RND5033

Postby TranscendingMusic » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:50 pm

Don't forget considering Pan Laws...
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Re: Test: MWD vs RND5043 / MWeQ vs RND5033

Postby AlexB » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:57 pm

Another simple test, try to play your reference CD throught the daws and you can hear the engines differences.

Yes, I have tried Reaper also but Samplitude is more clean, natural with a better soundstage (deep and open).
My personal preferences, about audio quality only and not workflow and so, are:
1 - Samplitude
2 - Studio One
3 - Reaper
... the others
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Re: Test: MWD vs RND5043 / MWeQ vs RND5033

Postby richie43 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:15 pm

oh no, not another digression about how some DAW's can actually do the math better and have better audio than another....
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Re: Test: MWD vs RND5043 / MWeQ vs RND5033

Postby reort » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:33 am

Alex,
did you compare nuendo4 and Samplitude12 at 96khz amd 192khz?
By the way I did some stereo pink noise recordings from a 1972 minimoog into Mytek 8X192 at all samplerates. I found that from 44.1khz to 96khz the biggest difference is an audible increase in high frequency content. The most profound difference is from 96khz and 192khz. 192khz gives a much more deeper stereo image a somewhat 3D separation of the frequencies that is incredibbly profound. I am not sure if that is because of Dan Lavery's warning about analog converter section can't keep up, a Mytek converter bug or if this is better sampling quality. I am going to do a A/B test between Moog output directly and this 192khz file to hear what sample resolution is closer to the moog output. But at any case 192 may be a tool to play wit (at least with Mytek).
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Re: Test: MWD vs RND5043 / MWeQ vs RND5033

Postby TranscendingMusic » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:52 am

Comparing DAW's is not so simple as listening to audio through each at different points in time. The only true listening comparison is instant A/B switching between DAW's. Continous playback with no latency induced stutter, glitches or interruptions. Anything other than this is all personal biases and imagination at work.
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Re: Test: MWD vs RND5043 / MWeQ vs RND5033

Postby reort » Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:16 am

Yes but with PC DAw's that is easely accomplished. One can install two differnt audio inyterfaces for example RME and SCOPE on the same PC and run ech DAW at the same time on one of each the interfaces, load the same tracks one each DAW and voila a quick and convinient DAW comparison can be done using most of the same hardware. Additionally only the Asio drivers are different but one could also do a second test run switching the DAW's and interfaces thus ASIO drivers.
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Re: Test: MWD vs RND5043 / MWeQ vs RND5033

Postby TranscendingMusic » Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:28 am

I didn't say it can't be done my friend, I simply asserted that comparing DAW's willy nilly is not reliable. 8-)
But it certainly can't be different interfaces. I mean if you want an honest evaluation everything must be the same. Not to mention, the issue with presenting the same mix rendered in each DAW to the outside world.
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Re: Test: MWD vs RND5043 / MWeQ vs RND5033

Postby surbitone » Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:13 am

TranscendingMusic wrote:comparing DAW's willy nilly is not reliable.


It certainly isn't. :geek:
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