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Postby david1103 » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:41 pm

i love the alexb black master eq, and with his clean and harmonic versions you can build a full stereo A*I eq, for example:

low shelf Harmonic Version
mid bell clean
high bell clean
high shelf clean

that's 4 instances of nebula. its a lot of cpu and ram, but so what! the eq costs £2000!

the thing is, now i want to buy the EQ :) mostly for having all the bands available at once and having all the knobs to twist and control rather than an annoying little mouse. thing is, i would need new DAC/ADC to make it worthwhile too.

my BIG question is, could i just buy a behringer BCF2000 motorised set of faders and set it up so that i load a channel in cubase with 4 instances of nebula loaded with the different A*I eq bands and the BCF2000 controls all 4 of them at once making a total A*I EQ?!

also, even more important, will the motorised faders be able to know all the nebula settings and just jump back into position when the session is loaded and the channel selected? then i could go from channel to channel making adjustments seeing the actual fader positions.

if this is possible then it would be AMAZING! maybe it is, did i read giancarlo had one of these units?

THANKS. if that would work it would be 64bit, i7 8gig ram time... :)
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Re: total eq emulation with motorised faders!

Postby giancarlo » Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:02 pm

well bfc allows a mackie control emulation. You could change a plug at time, and switch to next nebula instance. 8 nebula sliders are mapped to 8 touch faders. Very funny experience.
If you need to control 4 nebulas at once the midi learn feature is the way to go, but you should configure it, I never did it.
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Re: total eq emulation with motorised faders!

Postby david1103 » Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:13 pm

thanks, i found a link on google regarding midi learn, but i suspect it will go soon as its on the old website:

http://www.acusticaudio.net/modules.php ... d4d2fdff18

this looks good so far :)

what i am not sure about is:

i set up a channel with the 4 nebula's and midi learn is all working. i can now use the BCF to control the bands on each plugin.

if i save the project, load it back and select the channel will the BCF faders all jump back to the positions they were in for the nebula eq settings?
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Re: total eq emulation with motorised faders!

Postby TranscendingMusic » Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:31 pm

Just to chime in here, you can definitely do this with the Behringer. I tried it out before. I have to say though for me, I found it slowed me down more than actually help. This kind of thing is a work-flow issue and is completely subjective so you can try it out for yourself to see if you like it.
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Re: total eq emulation with motorised faders!

Postby enriquesilveti » Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:34 pm

Giancarlo used a BCF2000 for AES 2007 demostrations but I prefer Nocturn.
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Re: total eq emulation with motorised faders!

Postby david1103 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:49 am

i just bought myself a BCF2000 :)

i am running nebula 1.3.277 as it works 100% and the very new ones gave me my first crashes, so staying clear till people stop posting about crashes in them.

in cubase in mackie control mode i select nebula on the insert menu. it says there are 3 pages. none of the pages say there is anything there, but one time i moved the control and the first knob started to move (yes!)... now it just doesn't :( . all the other plugins i have report their parameters and seem to work.

there were some numbers displayed, but they were not correct.

you mentioned midi learn? i am not sure how this would work with the BCF, if i want to use a fader it is allready being used to control track level, does anyone know how to stop it doing that?

it took me all evening to get the thing working, the online docs are useless, had to watch youtube vids to get to grips with anything.

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Re: total eq emulation with motorised faders!

Postby chagalj » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:44 am

I think that BCR2000 is even more convenient to associate with Nebula EQs.
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/BCR2000.aspx
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Re: total eq emulation with motorised faders!

Postby himhui » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:24 am

Novation Nocturn is cheap and easy to assign those knobs with their own automap technology!!
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Re: total eq emulation with motorised faders!

Postby enriquesilveti » Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:44 am

Samplitude 11 pro + ProTools 8 LE with CM Motormix and Novation Nocturn here!

Plus: Nocturn maps for Nebula3 already done by me and available to download from Novation website
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Re: total eq emulation with motorised faders!

Postby RJHollins » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:53 am

enriquesilveti wrote:Samplitude 11 pro + ProTools 8 LE with CM Motormix and Novation Nocturn here!

Plus: Nocturn maps for Nebula3 already done by me and available to download from Novation website


Which version of AUTOMAP is your map for? When I tried it with 3.4 & 3.5 it said it was for an older version.

Any maps for 3.4 at least?

Also [from another thread] ... can the 'by-pass' button be assigned? and 2 ... the menu scroller in Nebula. Can it too be controlled via Automap?
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