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Nebula compressor to go along with Navy?

Postby manuel.soruco » Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:45 pm

So I´m on a quest to make my workflow/sound as analog as possible.

I have Nebula 3 and the tape libraries from R2R as well as AlexB´s VBC for the bus and master sections and I´m about to buy Navy for preamp sound/EQ.

My question is this: If i´m trying to emulate a high end studio with a 8014 as the centerpiece, what would my mixing compressors be?
For what I have read, the board had some compressors, but it wasn´t like the S*L 4K´s track compressors, but more like a bus compressors, especially since there seems to be like 4 or on a big mixer.
So if I´m trying to recreate the N**e sound as much as possible, how should compression be handled in mixing? You would just compress the essentials with outboard compressors (1176, LA-2A...etc) as well as the board´s 2254 comps for busses? Is it common in the N**e sound that you don´t compress/process each channel as much as with the S*L, which has compressors and even gate/expanders on each channel?
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Re: Nebula compressor to go along with Navy?

Postby basaristudios@gmail.com » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:39 pm

OCD kicking in huh? I got it even worst then you...ugh, sucks. :D
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Re: Nebula compressor to go along with Navy?

Postby xabilon » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:48 pm

Hi.

You can update your VBC to Vintage Neev 14 :
http://www.alessandroboschi.eu/html/ale ... onsole.htm
I think there's a special price for VBC owners.
For the 2254 Comp, same place :
http://www.alessandroboschi.eu/html/ale ... namics.htm

IMO The N**e 8014 has compressors only on the 4 busses, no comp on tracks, but you can use inserts for external compression, or compress on tracking. That desk is from the early 70's, at that time I think compression was no so systematic (Alan Parsons often used no compression at all).

And in case you want to stay 100% true to a 8014, be aware that Navy EQ has different frequency choices and more bands/filters than a 1073.
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Re: Nebula compressor to go along with Navy?

Postby manuel.soruco » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:12 am

Yes! I´m officially a Nebula OCD! :P

But actually my question wasn´t really to copy 100% all the nuances (althogh I want to get as close as possible without going nutz!) :P

My question was more about understanding the board and the sound, and you just confirmed what I was suspecting. That part of the N**e sound is that you don´t compress every track, which is probably one of the things that make it sound open.

The S*L sound however seems to be more tight and processed (I have heard about people that would shoot you if you use their studio´s 4k and not use the master bus compressor :P), which leads me to a bit of a problem, since I love compressing the heck out of everything but I also love the N**e sound... :oops:
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Re: Nebula compressor to go along with Navy?

Postby davidgary73 » Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:53 am

Hi manuel.soruco, you can check out N**e 2264, AlexB N64 compressor @ http://www.alessandroboschi.eu/html/ale ... namics.htm

The N**e 2254 n54 is also great to pair up with Navy.

Another must have is AlexB Modern Flagship libraries (N**e AMS 88RS).
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Re: Nebula compressor to go along with Navy?

Postby RJHollins » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:02 am

get as close as possible without going nutz!


And what's wrong with that ! :P

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Re: Nebula compressor to go along with Navy?

Postby xabilon » Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:56 am

manuel.soruco wrote:... I love compressing the heck out of everything but I also love the N**e sound... :oops:

You can use the 2254 on tracks, it does wonders for just everything : vocals, bass, guitars, keyboards, strings...

You can also use the Cupwise Smooth 609A (N**e 33609) on busses and master bus :
http://www.cupwise.com/fx/shop/smooth-609a-buscomp/
Cleaner than the 2254, but an excellent bus compressor.

And use some external compression (1176, LA2A, D*x...) on some tracks.
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Re: Nebula compressor to go along with Navy?

Postby botus99 » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:23 pm

manuel.soruco wrote:Yes! I´m officially a Nebula OCD! :P

...I want to get as close as possible without going nutz!) :P

...I love compressing the heck out of everything but I also love the N**e sound... :oops:


Just give in and go nuts. You're only delaying the inevitable otherwise :lol:

Why not both!? It's very common to track on a N**e and mix on an S*L. So, you could put Navy/AlexB's N series on first, and throw S*L stuff on after that. I love doing this, because you get the sweet, earthy fatness from the N stuff, and the punchy clear sound from S*L stuff. :P
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