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Re: Oh my gosh guys, please, the knobs and sliders...

Postby ce1909 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:56 am

<KNOBCONTROL> 2 </KNOBCONTROL>
Never knew this, you should have it posted somewhere or in the manual. (if it isn't already)
Typical plugin users like myself don't get into the coding or heavy tweaking.
Which brings another question- how do I enter exact values
Holding shift or ctrl doesn't move the knobs accurately.
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Re: Oh my gosh guys, please, the knobs and sliders...

Postby kindafishy » Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:22 am

fpoitevin wrote:Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that the problem is NOT the circular or linear response of the mouse but the fact that in the linear faders (it the red standard skin for example) if you click somewhere inside the drawing of the cap, instead of keeping the previous position, the button jumps to a new position (the position for which the mouse will be the center of the cap). In DAWs, you can click at the top or the bottom of fader's caps, the position remains the same until you move.
I agree that it would be very useful here.

Francois.

Yes, this is what I am referring to. It's great that there is a way to fix the knobs. That setting should be the default. Unfortunately for me, I deleted all the knob based skins because it was more tolerable to use the sliders. The sliders could still REALLY us a <SLIDERCONTROL> setting that does the same thing, so we can avoid this:
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Re: Oh my gosh guys, please, the knobs and sliders...

Postby giancarlo » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:08 am

ce1909 wrote:<KNOBCONTROL> 2 </KNOBCONTROL>
Never knew this, you should have it posted somewhere or in the manual. (if it isn't already)
Typical plugin users like myself don't get into the coding or heavy tweaking.
Which brings another question- how do I enter exact values
Holding shift or ctrl doesn't move the knobs accurately.


when you install nebula, just install vstgui4. Everything should be working, even mousewheel.
There are limitations on represented values, though.
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Re: Oh my gosh guys, please, the knobs and sliders...

Postby fpoitevin » Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:50 pm

The problem is still there for sliders even with VSTGUI4 and KNOBCONTROL parameter.

Is there a solution other than using rotating knobs ?
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Re: Oh my gosh guys, please, the knobs and sliders...

Postby giancarlo » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:08 am

no, we are using basic components from steinberg "as is"
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Re: Oh my gosh guys, please, the knobs and sliders...

Postby kindafishy » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:32 pm

So, what do you think, giancarlo? Is changing the behaviour of how a slider reacts to a mouse click something that you are willing to consider? The way the knobs work with the knobcontrol property is perfect!
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Re: Oh my gosh guys, please, the knobs and sliders...

Postby kels » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:00 pm

So, what do you think, giancarlo? Is changing the behaviour of how a slider reacts to a mouse click


stupid silly question but did you consider holding the SHIFT key while left-cliking on the sliders ? This remove most of the jump.
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Re: Oh my gosh guys, please, the knobs and sliders...

Postby kindafishy » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:49 pm

kels wrote:
So, what do you think, giancarlo? Is changing the behaviour of how a slider reacts to a mouse click


stupid silly question but did you consider holding the SHIFT key while left-cliking on the sliders ? This remove most of the jump.


Not stupid or silly at all. Good suggestion. Just tried it and as soon as one lets go of Shift, the slider jumps so it is pretty much the same behaviour overall. Try it clicking near the top of the slider handle and then let go of Shift.
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Re: Oh my gosh guys, please, the knobs and sliders...

Postby giancarlo » Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:41 pm

kindafishy wrote:So, what do you think, giancarlo? Is changing the behaviour of how a slider reacts to a mouse click something that you are willing to consider? The way the knobs work with the knobcontrol property is perfect!


yes when we'll change the framework. Or maybe as soon as we implement an acqua plugin based on sliders ;)
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Re: Oh my gosh guys, please, the knobs and sliders...

Postby kindafishy » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:54 pm

giancarlo wrote:
kindafishy wrote:So, what do you think, giancarlo? Is changing the behaviour of how a slider reacts to a mouse click something that you are willing to consider? The way the knobs work with the knobcontrol property is perfect!


yes when we'll change the framework. Or maybe as soon as we implement an acqua plugin based on sliders ;)


Orange EQ has sliders (and it's awesome on snare and guitar - imparts a great ring if that is something that suits the material). Understandable not to go back and tweak that EQ though. Next one!

Thank you, giancarlo. Appreciate your time and effort.
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