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Bass distorts with compressors

Postby rods » Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:31 pm

Hi, when working with compressors it seems that everytime I try to compress a bass sound I hear distortion in the attack. Is it normal? Is there a turnaround?
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Re: Bass distorts with compressors

Postby botus99 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:53 pm

With which compressor/s?
How much gain reduction?
Which Nebula Version?

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Re: Bass distorts with compressors

Postby rods » Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:04 pm

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dbx160A compressor
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Re: Bass distorts with compressors

Postby jorismak » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:08 pm

Nebul has issues with responding fast enough with compressor programs. There are some work arounds, but they all depend on the compressor-program you're trying to use.

CDSoundMasters D*x comp has different presets for what kind of compression level you expect to do. So if you want to gently ride it, you need the 'low' program, if you want to squash stuff, you need the 'high' program.

Maybe you're not using the right preset for the job in this case, since it's a little bit different than how other compressors work.

Otherwise, try looking for the massive threads that go about compressors+nebula to see the problems that can arise and what you can do about it.
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Re: Bass distorts with compressors

Postby rods » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:22 pm

Thanks, I've read several posts about compressors, and I've tried some tweaks. But I can't remember if any of them worked. I tried all the compression levels/algorythms in dbx160 from CDSM. All of them distort with bass (with my setup). In other program material they work great, really great.
I'll keep investigating.
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Re: Bass distorts with compressors

Postby SWANG » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:36 pm

michael D*x library is my go-to for bass guitar. i recently used his a "medium" preset for one track that worked very well for it. i also have used his "over" presets for a less aggressive tone. in my experience, following the compressor program with the corresponding preamp program is absolutely essential. it just compliments and smooths out the compressor program so well.

are you certain your bass track isn't coming in too hot?
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Re: Bass distorts with compressors

Postby ce1909 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:23 pm

I just got Michael's D*x & using the Medium comp on bass too.
I placed the 160+T+120 R 2:1 preamp after it. Is that the correct one?

What happens if you use the others?
Could that cause distortion?
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Re: Bass distorts with compressors

Postby Support » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:07 pm

All tips of the month, listed: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1346

Read tips about compression.
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Re: Bass distorts with compressors

Postby rods » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:18 pm

Thanks for the help!
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Re: Bass distorts with compressors

Postby SWANG » Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:19 pm

ce1909 wrote:I just got Michael's D*x & using the Medium comp on bass too.
I placed the 160+T+120 R 2:1 preamp after it. Is that the correct one?


"correct" is a subjective term...but you knew i was going to say that, right? ;)

seriously, you'd have to listen to really know if that's the right preamp choice. based on my experience, i would make a different selection of preamp program for medium compression. maybe something like 160-T -10 R 6:1 or maybe 10:1. perhaps even a -20 threshold would be more suitable. that may be a little too heavy for your taste, but without hearing the source or knowing what you're going for, it's tough to say. bass (at least the way i play it) has a very wide dynamic range, but that doesn't necessarily mean you always want medium or heavy compression on it. the medium and heavy compressor programs tend to alter in the D*x library can alter the transient attacks a bit more noticeably; whereas, the over-easy programs in conjunction with their corresponding preamps can be just enough compression but have less of a bite on the transients. give them a shot...
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