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Mastering with nébula Equalizers

Postby puresonic » Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:06 pm

Hello
I'm mainly interested in Nebula for mastering purpose and just made a few test with "Nebula3 free".

I have tested the 2 following eq :
239-state of logic MD S
242-Vintage EQ I

The 239 didn't pleased me too much and I prefered the 242-vintage EQ-I for it's smooth response and good stereo imaging.
I made comparisons with 2 of my usual EQ (sonalksis SVC517 and Electriq from Aixcoustic) and found that the Nebula program was reducing the dynamic in a very noticeable way.

A this point, I'm still interested in Nebula but wonder if other Nebula EQ programs behave the same way. In that case, I wouldn't find Nebula useful for EQ mastering.

So please if you are familiar with mastering (professional or at least advanced operator) let me know what you think about this dynamic subject.
(in a mastering context let me insist !!!)

It's quite difficult to judge Nebula on such a limited number of programs but in the other hand, I should have expected the developper to include at least one of their best EQ program in the demo/free version. Not to say the 242vintage EQ is bad...for mixing purpose it would be a fine tool.....
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Re: Mastering with nébula Equalizers

Postby enriquesilveti » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:46 pm

See this:
http://www.analoginthebox.com/mammoth_eq.php
http://www.analoginthebox.com/doc_fear.php
http://www.alessandroboschi.eu/html/en/ ... ter_eq.htm
http://www.alessandroboschi.eu/html/en/ ... ter_eq.htm
http://cdsoundmaster.com/site/cds-softw ... ltec1.html

Michael from cdsoundmaster.com runs a Mastering Studio.

Nebula program was reducing the dynamic in a very noticeable way.


This is the result of the non lineal approach, you can switch off (just for test) in the KERN page.
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Re: Mastering with nébula Equalizers

Postby mertayy » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:27 pm

Hey,

As you might notice, there are demo presets from 3.rd party developers that can be used with neb. free. None of them has demo periods but I can't remember which has reduced quality, but some don't.

The ones in free library were life savers years ago when ITB coloration was such a limited world. Today for me they represent steps of evolving technology.

Finally, remember these eq's are sampled (for every setting). So chaining 2 full bands is like using 2 hardwares for each band in analog world. Naturally, even in analog world this can reduce dynamic range (which can also mean Nebula is THAT good for what it does).

Most (probably all) 3.rd party librarys has clean versions and you can chain them after full color presets. Also there is no problem to use a min.-phase eq (like sonalksis) after a Nebula "preset".
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Re: Mastering with nébula Equalizers

Postby puresonic » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:11 pm

Thanx for the replies...

As you might notice, there are demo presets from 3.rd party developers that can be used with neb. free.

In the EQ folder I only see two demo programs (plus the factory presets) :

APE chan Hi demo
and
D fear Hi+ demo

No more parametric Bell type EQ....

I read that Neb free had a fixed number of presets
so I didn't search for more presets.

Anyways, I'll probably begin with a Neb2 version...
29 euros is not a huge expense.

If someone else has a personal word about how Nebula's handles dynamic during Equing....this is welcome...
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Re: Mastering with nébula Equalizers

Postby mertayy » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:17 am

Sorry I gave missing info, demo presets can be downloaded from 3.rd party developer sites not from here.

There will be usually preset limitations but that shouldn't be a problem for your question. Also buying nebula 2 to me is a better starting point.
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Re: Mastering with nébula Equalizers

Postby Barendse » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:13 am

Forget Nebula free. Get a paid version and try the free full quality demo programs from CDS. Cooltec, Siemens W295b, Mastering suite, Nice EQ and GEQ8300 are a huge step up from the Nebula free library.
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Re: Mastering with nébula Equalizers

Postby faun2500 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:09 pm

I'm using German Mastering Console EQ & Mammoth EQ and I think they are great.
Forthcoming releases on: Black Heart Label, Hyperdrive and Transfixion. http://soundcloud.com/100mg. 6 FREE Downloads on my soundcloud page. Nebula ALL over these trax!
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Re: Mastering with nébula Equalizers

Postby puresonic » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:44 pm

ok I see all these presets on 3rd Party websites but it
seems they require Neb3pro.

I will buy a Neb2 license to begin...

What do you think about Neb2 included Eq ??
Wich Eq add-on will work with Neb2 ?
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Re: Mastering with nébula Equalizers

Postby Barendse » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:14 am

puresonic wrote:ok I see all these presets on 3rd Party websites but it
seems they require Neb3pro.

I will buy a Neb2 license to begin...

What do you think about Neb2 included Eq ??
Wich Eq add-on will work with Neb2 ?


As far as I know all programs work in Neb2. Free demo programs included.
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Re: Mastering with nébula Equalizers

Postby faun2500 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:25 am

I don't use any 'free' libraries as I see the 3rd party ones as a kind of 'quality control'.
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