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Which Dynamic Processor with your Nebula Pre and Tapes ?

Postby elam » Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:47 pm

For those who use this technique (ie: add a brickwall limiter,compressor or any dynamic processor to their Pre,Tapes presets).What is you weapon of choice today ?

VTM-M2,Sonox Limiter,L2,L3,Elephant,Crunchessor... or even Ferox,Ferric,Roundtone...
What's for you the best VST for that task and how do you work with it ?

A little topic while you wait 'til your next Nebula compressor ;)
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Re: Which Dynamic Processor with your Nebula Pre and Tapes ?

Postby richie43 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:09 pm

I very rarely use brickwalls anymore, I am trying to take myself out of the whole "loudness wars" and let my music have dynamics. But if I do, I have a few fav's. Some of the tools you mentioned are not even limiters, I might add. VTM-M2, Roundtone, Ferric, those are more tape sims. My favorite limiter, though, that has flavor (NOT transparent) is Event Horizon from Stillwell Audio.
http://www.stillwellaudio.com/
In fact, they make some of the best compressor and (non-Neb) VST EQ's too. Very very reasonably priced, I may add. I have 4 of his compressors,some of the EQ's, VSTi's, and all are great for different tasks. But the limiter is my go to. Love it! Also check out the Transient Monster there. Crazy-cool on drums! Free uncrippled trial, just like Reaper, so no loss in trying!
Tonebooster Barricade is also an excellent brickwall, in my opinion. More transparent.
Here's a link for some awesome free ones, as well as a few other plugins.
http://www.xoechz.at/
Made by some reaper users, these are amazing. The limiter and "trimiter" are great. I also love the "double delay" from that site, but now I am straying OT.
I could go on forever. I have recently flushed out a large portion of my plugin collection due to my increasing love for all things Nebula, but I keep around some of my all-time favorite non-Neb VST's. Have fun!
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Re: Which Dynamic Processor with your Nebula Pre and Tapes ?

Postby elam » Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:40 pm

Thanks for the detailed answer Richie.

I should have been more precise:
What I mean is.When you're using Nebula Pre,you come very close to the hardware sampled in term of freq.curve,harmonics and non-linearitiy time-wise.But the slight "compression" part of it still missing or is at least not present enough.Some users (like me) add a transparent dynamic processor (of any sort)to recreate this "compression" and come even closer to what happened with a piece of hardware.
Same goes with tape emulations (the last STN are a bit different).Michael 3 stages concept with the last one (VTM) being the one dealing with tape compression,that's what I'm talking about...

In other words,when you want to add this 3rd stage for tape or this "second" stage for preamps what VST do you use ?

I hope is clearer.By the way Richie check this out.
http://clubvst.forumco.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=37
It might be clearer than my explanations here.

And yes, Stillwell plugins are really good (as the free ones he did for Reaper) I still use some of them.
richie43 wrote:Some of the tools you mentioned are not even limiters
I know,I was using the terms "dynamic processor" to bring wider answers ;) .
Thanks for the links.
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Re: Which Dynamic Processor with your Nebula Pre and Tapes ?

Postby richie43 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:41 pm

I love the VTM-M2 for that 3rd stage. Roundtone is nice too, but in my opinion, Michaels and Eric at Rhythminmind make the best tape stuff.
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Re: Which Dynamic Processor with your Nebula Pre and Tapes ?

Postby richie43 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:11 pm

Before I forget, I also wanted to add that the differences between the free Stillwell/Schwa plugs and the paid ones are more than the beautiful GUI's. I remember somewhere on the Reaper forum Scott Stillwell talking about how the paid versions have more advanced coding. Coming from some other devs, I would assume that a statement like that was really just a way to drive up sales. But I trust Scott Stillwell's integrity and decided to upgrade to the paid versions. So affordable, why not? And thanks for the link, it's a good informative read.
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Re: Which Dynamic Processor with your Nebula Pre and Tapes ?

Postby elam » Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:46 pm

richie43 wrote:And thanks for the link, it's a good informative read.


No problem.

I use The Rocket a lot this past years.Less,Major Tom Evenhorizon an co.I never took time to compare Major Tom w/GUI and the Reaper's one...

Like you, today,I'm almost all Nebula.Even for compressors (I try to).

As for what I was talking above I use Voxengo Elephant with Nebula pres when I feel it's needed and S****x Lim.(for now) as a 3rd stage.
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Re: Which Dynamic Processor with your Nebula Pre and Tapes ?

Postby richie43 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:52 pm

elam wrote:Like you, today,I'm almost all Nebula.Even for compressors (I try to).



The Nebula compressors have great color and "vibe", but for the functional part of compression, I still love Bombardier, major To, The Rocket, occasionally one of the new IK ones.... I like to have more than enough comp's "lying around". But other than compressors, I rarely use anything besides nebula.
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Re: Which Dynamic Processor with your Nebula Pre and Tapes ?

Postby Puranon » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:20 pm

Sonalksis has a clean compressor called SV-315Mk2
http://www.sonalksis.com/sv315.htm
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Re: Which Dynamic Processor with your Nebula Pre and Tapes ?

Postby elam » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:25 pm

I tried it in a friend's studio a while ago.Didn't like it at that time.But it happened several time that I come back to a tool with another mindset and eventually adopt it...

I'll download the demo again.I wanna try other options.Since I jumped on the Nebula boat,I stepped back from the plugin market ...seriously.

Puranon you're the 3rd person who mention it here in the past month.Do you use it to add a touch of limiter to your Nebula arsenal too or just as a regular comp.?
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Re: Which Dynamic Processor with your Nebula Pre and Tapes ?

Postby elam » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:01 am

Just realize that the one I tried was the 1st version.

Dunno if there's any significant changes with the mk2.

That's all folks.Way OT we still on the Nebula forum ;)
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